Our approach to SEO at RevaHealth.com is never to attempt to deceive the search engines. We regard SEO as the art and science of narrowing the distance between the search engine’s understanding of our pages a human’s understanding of a page.
The search engine are trying to do a very hard job, they are trying to use machines to understand the nature and meaning of a page while simultaneously doing the same for users query’s. Even with the best brains on the planet the search engine’s understanding of a page is going to be different to the reality and it is our job to help it understand our pages given the tools that we have available.
There are thousands of ideas out there on how to influence the position of pages in Google index. Many of these are tricks designed to deceive the search engine and others are out-dated techniques that have long been relegated to the history books. The problem with all search engine optimization is that from research alone it is impossible to tell the snake oil form the Promised Land and some changes can have disastrous results.
We have found that every time we want to implement some changes, we first conduct a scientific experiment to check if it’s a good or bad idea. This takes time and dedication and is not something to be taken lightly. Note that despite every effort to remain scientific there is a good deal of interpretation at all stages as it is impossible to control all variables in the study because the search engines are effectively black boxes and no doubt look at variables that we have not considered.
One of the tools that the search engines use to interpret the intention of a page is the use of country specific domains. So pages that are targeted at an UK audience can benefit from a .co.uk domain. Google also allows you to manually assign a preferred country using its webmaster tools. The problem for us at RevaHealth.com is that while we have content that is focused towards specific countries, it is not just one country (99 in fact). This means that we can’t use Google web master tools for optimizing for particular countries.
We’re about to test now how redirect to www.RevaHealth.ie and www.RevaHealth.co.uk will influence our position in Google.ie and Google.co.uk. We have local domains registered but we used to redirect all traffic to our main domain www.RevaHealth.com. We will redirect pages of 10 counties in Ireland and 10 shires in the UK to the local domains. It’s a great number of pages when we multiply counties by hundreds of locations and 25 clinic types. We have to redirect the pages permanently (301), as temporary redirect (302) doesn’t pass the PR.
What can we achieve? We are expecting to see the surge in position of our Irish pages in Google.ie and UK pages in Google.co.uk as the domain-extension is suppose to influence it. We risk our position in Google.com but we expect that drop to be minor. We will dilute our traffic as well, as visitors will be divided between domains. We will keep you informed on how we’re doing with the experiment.












So things I’d consider if it were me:
1. Where are your servers currently? If in Ireland or the UK then I’m not sure the experiment will give too much benefit in whichever respective country you host.
2. How are you going to handle internal linking from the .ie and .co.uk? What will be on their respective homepages? Internal linking will come into play here also.
I’ll be interested to see how this turns out, especially given what I think is going to shortly be happening with Google’s geotargeting.
I see your recent tweet in the sidebar “We are experimenting 301′ing some of our IRL pages from .com to .ie, hoping for a boost in google.ie. Same for UK #seo”. One of the things about being in supps is that Google will rarely crawl the pages, so they wont see the 301s, and hence the URLs will still exist is supps. One way to get them out is to point some link juice at the pages and then Google will crawl more frequently. It’s likely the only time where pagerank matters any more.
Will keep an eye out for results
Rgds
Richard
Hi Richard and thank for stopping by.
1. I have received a fair bit of contradictary advice here. Advice directly from Google is that domain is more important than server location. Guess we just have to test and see.
2. Any page that used to link to the old .com will now link to the new co.uk. It is fairly elegant in design at least, hopefully the implimentation will be too.
I’ll be posting the results, however that may be a month or more away.
We aren’t too worried about the results being in the sups, the pages that we want indexed are in the main index so I don’t think we care that Google keeps them in the sups. I thought it was interesting though
Hey Caelen
It would be great if you installed the subscribe to comments here. Make it easy to keep in the conversation
I’ll keep an eye on this – quite interested to hear how you get on.
On the Google advice – ccTLD will overwrite server location, but with gTLD the server location will be important. That’s why I wondered where you’re hosted now. If you’re in Ireland I’d expect the .co.uk to do very nicely from this, and vice-versa, if you get me.
Rgds and well done again on publishing some really useful info here. Few companies hand out their experience so freely.
Rgds
Richard
I’ve installed the comment subscrbe feature – now to test it works
After 2 weeks we have some initial results which are pretty terrible for both .ie and .co.uk. Monitored keywords have dropped by about 3 space and the control group has improved by 1 space.
Although it is far too early to draw a conclusion we speculate that this drop could be caused by a lack of trust and authority that the country specific domains have when compared to the .com domain.
Our results are moving to the right direction. After 4 weeks Irish pages have gained about 0,5 space and UK pages have dropped by ‘only’ about 1 space in comparison to the numbers before the experiment.